Another blog addressing whether homosexuality is a sin or not

This is a good post detailing what the Bible has to say on the subject.  The Bible is the ultimate authority on all things so it is appropriate to consult it for answers to this question.  The topic of homosexuality is directly addressed in the Bible. As such we need to heed what it says.

Click here to read the post over at the Fisher of Men blog.

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13 Responses to Another blog addressing whether homosexuality is a sin or not

  1. Matt says:

    So … going off to stone to death anyone that works on the Sabbath?
    The Bible clearly says you should and if it’s the supposed ultimate authority on everything, then it over rides the laws of whatever country you happen to be in.

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  2. Tom says:

    What you fail to understand is the difference of being under the Law and being under Grace. In the Old Testament the people were under the Law. In the New Testament people are no longer under the Law but are now under Grace. No Old Testament Law applies any longer unless it has been re-instituted / restated in the New Testament. Stoning for working on the Sabbath has not been re-instituted.

    The Bible is the final authority on everything and it teaches that we are to willingly submit ourselves to the laws of the government we are subject to. The Bible teaches that God has put our governments in place for His purpose. There is one exception and that is where obedience to the laws of the government cause you to be disobedient to God’s Word.

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  3. Bad says:

    That makes no sense. Morality cannot be one way today, and another tomorrow.

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  4. Tom says:

    That is my point exactly Bad….God and His laws have not changed. The only thing that has changes is our “legal” status in relation to the Law. We are either under the Law or we are justified in the Law – this means that we are made legally right in the Law.

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  5. Askelon says:

    “When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, ‘If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her,'” (John 8:7; NIV). We cannot stone anyone for their sin because we do not have the right. We are sinful ourselves. The only reason the government has the right to punish people is because it has been given the right. If the government passed a law saying that anyone who worked on the Sabbath would be put to death, that would be ok (although I would not recommend or support such a law), but if the government does not pass a law toward that, that does not give us the right to do it just because we think that’s what the Bible tells us. Truly, only one without sin or the government has permission to do such a thing.

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  6. Tom says:

    Where does the authority of the Government come from?

    Answer: God

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  7. Askelon says:

    Definitely. “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God,” (Romans 13: 1; NIV). The only time in which we must respectfully disobey the government is when they are clearly telling us to disobey God. For example, when Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were told to bow down to an idol, and they refused respectfully. Also, when Daniel chose to pray to God even though Dairus signed a decree saying this was illegal. In exception to times like these, the government represents God’s authority on earth. How can we discern when to follow them and when they are contradicting God? We must read God’s word all the time and pray constantly that the Holy Spirit will give us discernment. Sometimes it will be obvious, but sometimes it will not. Nevertheless, my point in all this is we do not have the authority to kill anyone for their sins. This is why we do not. This is very logical. Similarly, there are other logical explanations for passages in the Bible that may seem contradictory at first.

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  8. Bad says:

    God and His laws have not changed. The only thing that has changes is our “legal” status in relation to the Law. We are either under the Law or we are justified in the Law – this means that we are made legally right in the Law.

    This is not an explanation, but an evasion. At one time, it was morally correct to put people to death for certain offenses. At one time, God found certain unclean acts to be abominable: not just technically wrong, but morally offensive.

    Now those things have changed. This is a clear example of morality being changed to fit the wishes of, most likely, the human beings that wanted the changes.

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  9. Tom says:

    Bad said

    This is not an explanation, but an evasion. At one time, it was morally correct to put people to death for certain offenses. At one time, God found certain unclean acts to be abominable: not just technically wrong, but morally offensive.

    Now those things have changed. This is a clear example of morality being changed to fit the wishes of, most likely, the human beings that wanted the changes.”

    You are wrong in this assessment. God’s morality has not changed. He still requires death for all sin. The only difference now is who pays the penalty…if we are saved then Jesus has already paid the penalty…if not, then we have to pay it ourselves.

    When Jesus pays the penalty for us then we are said to be justified in the eyes of the Law and no longer subject to it. This is the new covenant that Jesus brought. We are no longer under the Law if we are His.

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  10. Troy says:

    So it’s only the new testament directives that matter now? Well, okay. The new testament advocates slavery and gives directives for how slaves and masters should act, women are told not to speak in church and men and women are given prescribed dress codes for worship services. And don’t get me started on what it says about divorce. Are you telling me that God doesn’t allow the Holy Spirit to grow us when it comes to cultural norms that are not positive? Frankly, I think it’s a good and Godly thing that we don’t enslave others any longer and that women’s voices are valued in the church as teachers of men and others, and that we can choose what to wear when we worship God.

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  11. Bad says:

    Tom, again you are wrong. The OT never required death for every sin, only earthly punishment for specific offenses. In fact, the OT god already offered several means of spiritual redemption.

    Nor can that possibly explain how things that God declared morally wrong can now be acceptable to do. That is, without any doubt, a changing morality and no amount of fancy footwork or subject changing can avoid it.

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  12. Tom says:

    Bad said

    Tom, again you are wrong. The OT never required death for every sin, only earthly punishment for specific offenses. In fact, the OT god already offered several means of spiritual redemption.

    All sin entered the world through one simple act of disobedience. The punishment for this act of disobedience was death – both physical and spiritual. Therefore, the punishment for every sin is death.

    Bad said

    Nor can that possibly explain how things that God declared morally wrong can now be acceptable to do. That is, without any doubt, a changing morality and no amount of fancy footwork or subject changing can avoid it.

    God has not changed….what He declared morally wrong is still morally wrong. The fact that our society rejects His decrees and now says something that He once declared morally wrong is now acceptable does not change His decree. The only change is our willingness to accept and follow His decree. That is not a changing morality…only a changing of our obedience to God.

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  13. Tom says:

    Troy said

    Are you telling me that God doesn’t allow the Holy Spirit to grow us when it comes to cultural norms that are not positive?

    I am telling you that Truth, as defined by God, does not change no matter what the cultural norms are. When the Holy Spirit grows us, and he does if we are obedient, it is toward God not the cultural norms.

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